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Originally posted by col-pul:
From what I've read all the fouls depicted were in the first ten minutes of the game and both the players villainized in the video only had one foul the rest of the way combined. Statements from both Connell and Highland said that there was a lot of trash talking and that both sides were playing very physical. There weren't any fights and it doesn't appear the game degenerated, in fact the opposite, so to me you have to assume that the refs got the game under control sans evidence that they didn't.


So the fouls occurred early in the game, then there was physical play and trash talking throughout the game?

Certainly sounds like the game degenerated to me. Calling a couple of hard fouls intentional or tossing #34 early would definitely have gotten control of the game.



My comment was about context. You can take a video of someone doing almost anything over a day and zoom in and isolate a fraction of the whole and show those short clips repeatedly in slow motion with leading commentary and get an entirely different perspective than had the whole course of the event been viewed at normal speed sans commentary. Now, with context and neutral editing perhaps I'd agree with the majority and called the hard drive where the ball was taken down after the block attempt was started and the kid hit the floor hard might have been a flage and the push out front might have been an intentional. But lacking context I see fouls just as hard every week that aren't called intentional or flages.


I'm glad we don't have the type of basketball you see, here where I live.

Like I said, I know what call I'm making when I see the initial play. No need for replays.



A Question on aside; on the push out front it looked like a Highland player gained control of the ball and as the Connell player was coming out a second Highland player came between the Connell player and the Highland player with the ball; had the Connell player not shoved the Highland player between him and the ball but just run into him wouldn't that be a blocking foul on Highland?


No, I would not. A moving screen is legal as long as both the screener and the player being screened are both moving in the same direction. Further, I disagree with your interp that the player stepped in front of #42. Both red players are clearly out in front, going after the ball.

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 Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - FBRef 1/6 12:28 PM (show all)  Views 934
        Re: Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - col-pul 1/9 12:41 PM
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                             Re: Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - FBRef 1/11 3:10 PM
                                    Re: Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - col-pul 1/11 3:49 PM
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                             Re: Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - Moch77 1/10 11:32 AM
                                    Re: Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - col-pul 1/10 1:25 PM
                                           Re: Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - FBRef 1/11 3:19 PM
                                           Re: Common, Intentional or Flagrant fouls? - Money$$ 1/11 12:06 PM

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